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This NexusCon 2025 session takes a different format: a live debate on whether grid-interactive buildings are truly ready for broad deployment—or still stuck in research and pilots.
The discussion brings together Alex Perlman (Director, Energy Storage Investment & Development, Prologis), Nicholas Burgess (Head of Building Intelligence, JB&B), Bill McGuire (Cofounder, ACE IoT Solutions), Michael Rohan (Principal, Energy & Engineering, Northwell Health), and Andrew Vavoulis (Controls Engineer, HGA Architects & Engineers). Instead of slides, the speakers square off on real-world constraints: incentives, codes, utility market structures, and operational risk.
The framing is simple but uncomfortable—if this stuff really worked at scale, would we still be debating it?
Behind the paywall, you’ll hear candid arguments from both sides: why some owners believe incentives, batteries, and load flexibility are finally aligning—and why others argue the value stack is still broken. The speakers unpack what’s slowing adoption today, from inconsistent codes and bespoke implementations to market rules that prevent buildings from capturing the value they create.
You’ll also hear what surprised them most: how much progress exists in pockets, and how far policy and utility structures lag behind technology. If you’re an FM, EM, or OT leader trying to decide whether grid interaction belongs in this year’s capital plan—or next decade’s roadmap—this debate will sharpen your thinking fast.
Watch the full recording inside Nexus Pro →
This NexusCon 2025 session takes a different format: a live debate on whether grid-interactive buildings are truly ready for broad deployment—or still stuck in research and pilots.
The discussion brings together Alex Perlman (Director, Energy Storage Investment & Development, Prologis), Nicholas Burgess (Head of Building Intelligence, JB&B), Bill McGuire (Cofounder, ACE IoT Solutions), Michael Rohan (Principal, Energy & Engineering, Northwell Health), and Andrew Vavoulis (Controls Engineer, HGA Architects & Engineers). Instead of slides, the speakers square off on real-world constraints: incentives, codes, utility market structures, and operational risk.
The framing is simple but uncomfortable—if this stuff really worked at scale, would we still be debating it?
Behind the paywall, you’ll hear candid arguments from both sides: why some owners believe incentives, batteries, and load flexibility are finally aligning—and why others argue the value stack is still broken. The speakers unpack what’s slowing adoption today, from inconsistent codes and bespoke implementations to market rules that prevent buildings from capturing the value they create.
You’ll also hear what surprised them most: how much progress exists in pockets, and how far policy and utility structures lag behind technology. If you’re an FM, EM, or OT leader trying to decide whether grid interaction belongs in this year’s capital plan—or next decade’s roadmap—this debate will sharpen your thinking fast.
Watch the full recording inside Nexus Pro →
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This is a great piece!
I agree.